TCK.B again

TCK jul 25 2012

So the stock dropped 8%, or something like that , today, to a low of $27+. Many brokers that are very knowledgeable would ridicule a forecast of $15 or so before things are over. Part of that is because they move in circles that are entirely and absolutely geared to sales, pure and simple. Nothing else matters at all. On top of that most of the supposed talking head channels are geared , not exclusively but primarily, to entertainment. Furthermore, and this is truly annoying, there is tendency to present information in the most positive light, except when things truly go wrong in which case there is no limit to the indignation. To the point; when did you  last see a 30+ year chart on a stock?? Here is one for 30+ years instead of the 3 months plus you usually see on TV or in your paper.

When you look closely and apply a little common sense, it is all of a sudden not that hard to see how this stock could go to $15 if the pendulum swings through it’s equilibrium as it invariable does. If you like the H&S approach the target is lower at around $10. The true EW target is actually below $5.

Fundamentally there is enough coal on this earth to last us a millennium. There is all this talk about how much copper is needed to build all those homes that are needed to move 300 mln. Chinese to the suburbs. No one ever talks about plumbing and the effects of wireless technology, just have a peek at the inventory at Home Hardware, very little copper and a lot of PVC, so maybe, just maybe, this fundamental argument is false.

TA, TransAlta

TA jul 2012TA s jul 25 2012

On July 16th this stock looked like it might well be a buy for the long haul. This despite our immediate target of $15. Well here we are and almost there so perhaps now it is even a better buy (we try to be constructive, see our blog under TA ZUT). We are tweaking the count a little bit as per the above charts. It looks like we might have had a B-wave triangle in an A-B-C overall correction (the e is outside the triangle but not beyond the top of c). Typically in these structures the C is equal to A or about 62% of that which would call for a price close to $12, which is also the 4th of wave 3 up. We do not now if it will get there, but if it does the rebound should be swift.

TCK.B reminder

tck apr 2012tck.B jul 2012

These are old charts , from April and June. Teck just reported 2d quarter profits that were down by 52% due to price falls in coal and copper. We will see what will happen to the stock but certainly our price target is becoming more realistic. The pendulum does not stop in the middle. The average price of the stock over the past 10 years or so is, eyeballing the Bigchart, about $30, where the stock is now. If the drop in profits is sustained over time $15 would actually fit like a T.

SAN , BBVA and the IBEX update

SAN Jul 25 2012BBVA jul 25 2012

IBEX jul 25 2012

Santander, Viscaya and the Madrid index are all at , close to, or even a little beyond what are “normal” reasonable targets under EW. The index could still do another 700 points or so to reach the 4th wave of previous degree but it has already lost precisely 62% of its value. Santander has maybe another 60 cents to go to get to the 02 lows, the 4th wave. Viscaya has done all that and is now pennies away from the trend line of the wedge wave c of C.

What one would expect in EW land is a turnaround somewhere here, if not for the IBEX as a whole then certainly for these two banks. To state the obvious , there is only another $4 left to the down side. Keep in mind also that Santander is the largest bank in the Eurozone and Viscaya is not that far behind. Both have extensive operations outside of Spain itself. If ever there were banks that fall into the “systemic”-risk category, it is these. Who knows, maybe just somehow they will pull another, bigger, rabbit out of the hat. If they are buys remains to be seen, time will tell etc. But in any event these banks are not good shorts.

Here they are in more detail:

san detail 2012bbva detail jul 2012

In the SAN case it is possible to draw the wedge less sharply which would change the count in such a way that we have only completed wave 3 and are now starting wave 4, that does not apply to BBVA at all. The RSI and MACD are not confirming the new lows.