SAN, BBVA and IBEX update

Please refer to the earlier blog of July 25th, 2012 and earlier entries for Santander etc. In it we warmly recommended the purchase of all three, SAN , BBVA and IBEX. Here is the IBEX for starters;

$ibex sept 2012

On that very day the IBEX actually traded just below the 6000 mark. Today it is at about 7500, up no less than 25%. Similar gains were had on SAN and BBVA (not shown). Even if the IBEX is not directly tradable the EWP could have been used, shown below;

ewp sept 2012

The gain here is about $6 on $20. We would sell all now in line with the adage, buy on rumour, sell on fact. In all cases either a wedge  or a simple 5 wave sequence for the last major leg can be counted. Also all seem to have completed, or nearly so, a minor 5 wave move from the lows. This could be an initial start to even higher levels but could also be a c wave ending an a-b-c rebound.

SAN , BBVA and the IBEX update

SAN Jul 25 2012BBVA jul 25 2012

IBEX jul 25 2012

Santander, Viscaya and the Madrid index are all at , close to, or even a little beyond what are “normal” reasonable targets under EW. The index could still do another 700 points or so to reach the 4th wave of previous degree but it has already lost precisely 62% of its value. Santander has maybe another 60 cents to go to get to the 02 lows, the 4th wave. Viscaya has done all that and is now pennies away from the trend line of the wedge wave c of C.

What one would expect in EW land is a turnaround somewhere here, if not for the IBEX as a whole then certainly for these two banks. To state the obvious , there is only another $4 left to the down side. Keep in mind also that Santander is the largest bank in the Eurozone and Viscaya is not that far behind. Both have extensive operations outside of Spain itself. If ever there were banks that fall into the “systemic”-risk category, it is these. Who knows, maybe just somehow they will pull another, bigger, rabbit out of the hat. If they are buys remains to be seen, time will tell etc. But in any event these banks are not good shorts.

Here they are in more detail:

san detail 2012bbva detail jul 2012

In the SAN case it is possible to draw the wedge less sharply which would change the count in such a way that we have only completed wave 3 and are now starting wave 4, that does not apply to BBVA at all. The RSI and MACD are not confirming the new lows.

IBEX Madrid’s exchange, update

IBEX june 2012

There are a multitude of “problems” with this particular count. To mention but one, wave 1 of 1 seems to be non-existent. In any event this count overall is not unreasonable. If correct one more low should be made down the road. This is also what we suggested about a month ago repeated below;

IBEX Apr 2012

We have managed to get to about 6000 so far, but not the “ideal” level of about 5500 or lower. On the other hand, the drop from 16000 to 6000 is a nice Fibo 60%. If one inserts a wedge (diagonal) for all of wave C, 6000 could be it.

IBEX, Spain update

Spain , as so many other countries, became a full Euro area member state in 1999. Any benefits that the country’s stock index may have enjoyed as a result have now been taken back, and it does not look like we are quite at the bottom. Here are the past and present charts;

IBEX Apr 2012ibex may 2012

The index is now at about 6400. Wave 4 of previous degree is at about 5250, a level also suggested by the triangle (if there is indeed one) measurement. For the bulls there is the 62% retracement level which obviously comes in at just under 6000. For the bears  equality between waves C and A occurs at about 4000 if it were to happen now. Take your pick, but for the moment there is a little  (or perhaps a lot) of downside left.