Shanghai update

Shanghai dec 10,2014

One day ago we showed the Shanghai index as an example of a stock market gone mad. The next day this index drops by 5.4% but during the day must have been down about 8.3%. This market is losing any connection with reality that it might have had. With this market resembling a casino and with an economy that has massive overcapacity in every direction Schumpeter’s creative destruction should start in earnest any moment now.

SSEC, Shanghai index

Shanghai Dec 9 2014

Up 50% or so in 4 months, 1/2 of that in a matter of weeks. This index comes from 6000 so we are now only at the halfway mark but it is shown here simple to point out how idiotic markets can behave when the central powers intervene or otherwise manipulate markets.

Shanghai Index , the engine of the World’s growth?

Shanghai  aug 1 2013shanghai vs s&p aug 1 2013

China’s economy has been growing at somewhere between 11 to 6% for the past decade or longer. In 2009 they launched a stimulus package of nearly 700 bln., which, relative to the economy was arguable larger than in the US or anywhere else for that matter. The state owned banking system has carte blanche to play fast and loose with all the normal constricting concepts such as capital adequacy, return on capital etc.etc. A more liberal environment is hard to imagine, yet the stock market is down by 2/3 from the peak and even 43% from the rebound high in ‘09. The S&P500, in contrast, is up more than a 100% from the lows and about half of that after the initial rebound.

Very judiciously I chose 1996 as the starting year for this chart. That was the year when the Maestro Greenspan coined the phrase “irrational exuberance”.  Now 17 years later we are still higher by 200%, amazingly enough on BOTH indices. China and the US performed in an identical way over that period. Today the US made new highs, supposedly on the good ISM numbers in, of all places, China. Apparently the US Pavlov dogs are better trained than those in China, and in the end, of course, it is all about the mood. The picture below from the World Health organisation might explain a lot of the difference;

China Pollution Poses Test for Regime as Middle Class Protests - Bloomberg - Goo_2013-07-12_08-21-06

And , of course, shanghaiing refers to the practice of kidnapping sailors described  as  follows.                                                                                                                                     The most straightforward method for a crimp to shanghai a sailor was to render him unconscious, forge his signature on the ship’s articles, and pick up his "blood money." This approach was widely used, but there were more profitable methods.    Wikepedia.

Could it be that the Americans have perfected the art and found the more profitable methods?

IFN, India and CHN, China update

First the old blog from Febr. 10, 2011, 17 months ago;

india and China feb 2011

And here today’s charts;

ifn jul 2012chn jul 2012

The little red arrows show where and when these ETFs were on Febr. 2011. Both were at about $30 at the time, so now , a year + later they are down to roughly $20 which is about 30%. Both are probable in a wave 4 of a five wave sequence for wave C. We do not now how low they will ultimately go, but they should , at least , go below the ‘09 lows. IFN comes from $70 and CHN from $55 so both are down by more than 50%. Using the FXI as an alternative ETF (iShare) for China we get pretty well the same picture;Same with Shanghai DJSH

fxi jul 2012shanghai jul 2012

The FXI is down about 60% from the highs. It should, as a minimum, trade below $28 after which it will probable make new post peak lows. Shanghai has done very little over the past year but the EW count is analogous to the others. If China and India are making “soft” landings, investors in these indices probably do not agree.